true confessions
Actually, the elevator in the Grand Canyon is located about a mile and a half west of the village on the south rim at the head of the shallow bay between...
Wayne Tomasi 2001-08-07 15:04:48 #10195

Re: water in the Horseshoe Mesa area
Ok, thanks for checking the mileages. So it's a close thing, depending on exactly where I camp in Cottonwood area. Itinerary is: 2 nites Red Cyn, 2 nites...
jge@cs.unc.edu 2001-08-07 11:53:09 #10194

Re: water in the Horseshoe Mesa area
John, I checked Adkinson's book on mileages. From the Cottonwood/Tonto junction, it is: * 4.0 miles to Grapevine Spring. * 4.6 miles if you go around...
bobanderson@gtemail.net 2001-08-07 11:29:11 #10193

Re: water in the Horseshoe Mesa area
Service lists "Grapevine Creek" as a perennial water source. It was > never clear to me if they are referring to: Bob, thanks for the suggestion. My...
jge@cs.unc.edu 2001-08-07 10:45:36 #10192

Re: Late September hiking question
I believe the Babitt store sells in step crampons for around $10.00. I have bought them there and they work just fine. Lobo
bcorey6460@aol.com 2001-08-07 08:01:33 #10191

Re: True Confessions
I doesn't look like the group wants to do self evaluations today. The first step in recovery is to be aware that you have a problem. Okay, once I asked my...
Paul Hindman 2001-08-07 07:21:18 #10190

Re: Late September hiking question
I agree with the rest of the gang. You won't need crampons in September. Just one more opinion to give a sense of comfort to your group. --- In...
Paul Hindman 2001-08-07 07:16:14 #10189

Re: Late September hiking question
The other posters clearly know more about the canyon than I, but I'll toss in my 2-cents. We visited the canyon in mid November 93. We were greeted in...
Steven Lesniak 2001-08-07 06:36:56 #10188

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