Re: permits
I also do not mind paying for permits, but I do mind getting double dipped. It cost me $35 to NPS for one night, for our group to do Shinimu Wash and it...
bcorey6460@aol.com 2001-11-13 18:00:40 #11909

Re: Shinimu Wash
One other highlight of this hike that I forgot to mention. Once you are up on top of the Redwall, you will see some of the prettiest red Jasper all along...
williamhenryorman@yahoo.com 2001-11-13 17:44:45 #11908

Re: BAcg> out to rim
I just got back from the GC. Had perfect weather on November 11. I hiked the Kaibab in 2.5 hours down and 4 hours up. This was my first visit to the GC. ...
dolson1954@aol.com 2001-11-13 17:10:29 #11907

permits
As an occasional hiker in the Grand Canyon; I don't mind having to pay for permits. But there does seem to be some need to keep track of who is using what...
schroede@backpacker.com 2001-11-13 16:40:50 #11906

Re: too many permits
reviving this thread... > So this is the main thing to watch out for in fee demo programs: The > insidious bureaucratic concept that the fees should...
tom@bournemarimbas.com 2001-11-13 14:42:06 #11905

Re: BAcg> out to rim
I think Bob and I are taking about the same view on this. My scale was calibrated a little closer to the newbie and Bob's is a little more like "done...
doug@gloaming.com 2001-11-13 13:28:46 #11904

Re: BAcg> out to rim
8 hours would be a pretty leisurely pace. The Kaibab can be done with packs in 4-5 without being a super athlete and the longer BA in 5-6. Those times are...
Bob Marley 2001-11-13 11:26:53 #11903

Re: BAcg> out to rim
Not really an answer to your question, but just for reference I would estimate that the "standard backpacker" time hauling out from the bottom on almost any...
doug@gloaming.com 2001-11-13 10:05:05 #11902

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