RRFW Riverwire - GRAND CANYON SLIDESHOW TOUR
RRFW Riverwire - GRAND CANYON SLIDESHOW TOUR September 29, 2003 Tom Martin, Co-Director of River Runners for Wilderness, will be presenting a slideshow on...
Tom Martin and Hazel Clark 2003-09-29 10:09:53 #24651

Re: Privileged Trail Access
attacking an opponent based on a personal trait. Like "lazy hikers." > A straw man argument presents a false dichotomy. Like the only justification for...
Doug Nering 2003-09-29 09:27:51 #24650

Re: Privileged Trail Access
I think one thing that might help this thread is defining one's terms. The term wilderness to most people is an untouched area, left in it's natural...
donaldpvadair@cs.com 2003-09-29 09:10:43 #24649

Re: Privileged Trail Access

donaldpvadair@cs.com 2003-09-29 09:02:38 #24648

Re: pothole water below Yuma Point late October
We haver done that hike a number of times and have always found pothole water. We have found the spring above the trail (forgot the name) variable. In Mar....
donaldpvadair@cs.com 2003-09-29 09:00:17 #24647

Re: Privileged Trail Access
So I repeat the question. What is the environmental argument in favor of opening these roads? I would say my argument is that it is not being treated as...
Josh Case 2003-09-29 08:07:33 #24646

Re: pothole water below Yuma Point late October
Last time I was at Boucher Creek we heard lots of mice at night. None of our food bags got "broken into" but there are lots of mice. Maybe when we were...
Josh Case 2003-09-29 08:01:21 #24645

Re: Privileged Trail Access
Not really, Doug. That contained neither ad hominem nor straw man arguments. Ad hominem avoids the issue and tries to shift focus by attacking an opponent...
smith_seldom 2003-09-29 07:56:15 #24644

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