Re: Atoko Point Route
I too have tried this route twice in the past five years. The North Rim Backcountry Office has no record of their being a route and Harvey's trail...
Brian Cronin 2003-11-02 10:05:43 #25560

Re: "Canyon May Get Fast Rail"
According to the train's website http://www.thetrain.com/ NPS fee is $8/person for train ride and max speed of the current train is only 40 mph and is much...
Steve 2003-11-02 10:04:09 #25559

Re: clear creek
I don't have a great deal of experience, but did the Clear Creek last year in July heat. The trail was not difficult, but it seemed long...and we ran out...
beachboywantabe@aol.com 2003-11-02 10:02:48 #25558

Re: clear creek
with headlamps. We were in Phantom by 8:30 a.m. and I still burst > capillaries on the backs of my calves. Kam, What do you mean about bursting...
Mann Connie 2003-11-02 07:22:11 #25557

Re: clear creek
Clear Creek is one of my favorite trails because you get the quick ascent, a very impressive view of the South Kaibab and a you get to stride out along the...
kampaz5 2003-11-01 22:54:52 #25556

Re: Any naturalists out there?
George, Though I have witnessed the saliva proppeled projectiles you refer to, I've never seen them in a conglomeration this concentrated. I'm more apt to...
Stan Warner 2003-11-01 20:06:12 #25555

Re: Any naturalists out there?
Bill, Spit ball residue left by the Hisatsinom? Sorry--- couldn't resist in light of recent overly- serious posts. Can't help you on this one--...
'Curious George' Copsey 2003-11-01 18:24:43 #25554

Re: clear creek
having done this as one of the first overnight trips in the canyon with my wife,the trip down to Phantom Ranch on the South Kaibab had the most lasting...
tombuchta 2003-11-01 18:11:41 #25553

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