Re: Phantom Ranch/Crystal Creek Steck's loop
--- Scott wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I'm looking for someone who's done Steck's loop Phantom > Ranch/Crystal Creek. We are likely heading North first and...
David Marcus 2004-11-14 22:28:23 #33030

Re: "region files" for www.kaibab.org topo maps ?
Right on Bob. Serpentine to the river is a wonderful creek bottom hike and it does not need cairns. --- In Grand_Canyon_Hikers@yahoogroups.com, Bob Bordasch...
Bob Marley 2004-11-14 21:45:11 #33029

Re: "region files" for www.kaibab.org topo maps ?
I knew it!! :o) Well, I think accurate route maps could be useful, but at least not having so many inaccurate ones would be better than the current...
Doug Nering 2004-11-14 19:28:06 #33028

Re: "region files" for www.kaibab.org topo maps ?
I generally agree with both Bob and Doug, although I'm probably not quite as "pure" as Doug. I have a problem with cairns and ducks too. On my last hike, we...
Bob Bordasch 2004-11-14 19:17:49 #33027

Re: Phantom Ranch/Crystal Creek Steck's loop
BTW it is much easier to upclimb that route than downclimb. It looks frightfully exposed when downclimbing it but it really isn't. I was very happy to have...
Bob Marley 2004-11-14 18:51:32 #33026

Re: "region files" for www.kaibab.org topo maps ?
My reaction also I think. It's like the folks that want waypoints all the way to the bottom of the Canyon so they know they are on the route. You need...
Bob Marley 2004-11-14 18:49:49 #33025

Re: Phantom Ranch/Crystal Creek Steck's loop
I'm lost here. Are we talking about the redwall route out of Phantom Canyon. That is the only place I know that can be bypassed by coming up Trinity (a walk...
Bob Marley 2004-11-14 18:25:45 #33024

Re: "region files" for www.kaibab.org topo maps ?
Well, duh!! :o) On Nov 14, 2004, at 3:43 PM, johngeyles wrote: > ...P.S. Or will the elitists say that this makes it "too easy" for > the qualified while...
Doug Nering 2004-11-14 17:58:54 #33023

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