Re: Tiyo Point access question
Dave, I will paste in below the sections of the 1964 Wilderness Act. Aircraft are allowed on privately owned land within the wilderness area, "in...
Dick Matthews 2005-02-12 09:05:13 #34664

Re: Tiyo Point access question
Actually the NPS equivocation on these issues is a complete joke. It spans political administrations of both types, a couple of superintendents, more than a...
Bob Marley 2005-02-12 09:02:56 #34663

Re: Tiyo Point access question
My feeling exactly Josh. On a fire road still used by the NPS what is wrong with bike traffic anyway. Seems about as environmentally friendly as one can...
Bob Marley 2005-02-12 08:48:30 #34662

Re: Tiyo Point access question
Didn't you know that bikes are much more damaging to the environment and to wildlife than motor boats in the river, helicopters flying below rims, mules, and...
dnally 2005-02-12 08:08:13 #34661

Re: Tiyo Point access question
Bob, I'm pretty sure you/ve done the loop before. I did the Tiyo Pt approach twice--once using Stecks directions, crossing the ravines, and the second...
franzsand@aol.com 2005-02-12 07:29:33 #34660

Re: Tiyo Point access question
I can understand the no motor vehicles part of any closure, but what is the problem with bikes? Being able to ride a bike to a remote trailhead makes some...
Josh 2005-02-12 00:06:52 #34659

Re: Tiyo Point access question
Ridiculous is the word for it. Major obstacle to an otherwise perfectly good published hiking route, and the best access to the Crystal area. On Feb 11,...
Doug Nering 2005-02-11 23:50:55 #34658

Re: Tiyo Point access question
When I was out there a couple of years ago it was signed in the meadow along the road to Point Sublime from the North Rim ranger station. No wheeled traffic...
Bob Marley 2005-02-11 20:55:54 #34657

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