Re: Tiyo Point access question
We left about 3 pm and camped on the Saddle--one waterless night, but you can be down to Dragon well before noon. That way you get shade going down to ...
franzsand@aol.com 2005-02-12 13:49:55 #34670

Clear Creek
Is it wet in clear creek now? John
imnhoj 2005-02-12 13:38:06 #34669

Re: Tiyo Point access question
Yeah, I have done it before -- before the road was closed. And I did use the spur road. Now with the road closure it makes the loop logistics much more...
Bob Bordasch 2005-02-12 11:50:31 #34668

Re: Tiyo Point access question
Claire is right, the Shiva Pt road is much easier, just obscure. We passed it once because of the speed at which you can hike the old Tiyo road (>3 mph with...
gcclimbing 2005-02-12 10:01:12 #34667

Re: Tiyo Point access question
Dave, Exactly. The Act was written 40 years ago before mountain bikes were in common use. It needs to be updated and enough definitions added to prevent...
Dick Matthews 2005-02-12 09:46:28 #34666

Re: Tiyo Point access question
That's the problem--the dividing line can be anywhere and it is arbitrarilly administered, depending on who has more power or money or voice. No "motorized...
dnally 2005-02-12 09:23:13 #34665

Re: Tiyo Point access question
Dave, I will paste in below the sections of the 1964 Wilderness Act. Aircraft are allowed on privately owned land within the wilderness area, "in...
Dick Matthews 2005-02-12 09:05:13 #34664

Re: Tiyo Point access question
Actually the NPS equivocation on these issues is a complete joke. It spans political administrations of both types, a couple of superintendents, more than a...
Bob Marley 2005-02-12 09:02:56 #34663

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