Re: Space on permit for Point Huitzil/Royal Arch/Elves Chasm/South
This is a phenominal route. The Indian ruins and petroglyphs through the toroweap and coconino are really cool. The route through the coconino goes...
rich_rudow 2007-03-12 10:48:37 #45343

Re: Gadgets
Sam, The gadgets are not dangerous, however substituting a gadget for skill and common sense is dangerous. Gadgets don't kill people. For mountaineering a...
Dick Matthews 2007-03-12 10:32:54 #45342

Re: Gadgets
I don't know how this thread got started exactly, but I don't remember anyone advocating the use of GPS units in Grand Canyon. I agree with Wayne that they...
Bob Bordasch 2007-03-12 10:17:09 #45341

Re: NAVIGATION
As usual...Very well said... Some of the newer higher end GPS units work much better below the rim and aren't useless. GPS is constantly changing with...
Sam 2007-03-12 09:46:26 #45340

Re: Cedar MOUNTAIN
Jim, I haven't climbed Cedar Mountain, but I have driven out that road a few times (one of the ways to get to Blue Spring). You'll need a high clearance...
Hank Schnieder 2007-03-12 09:19:52 #45339

Re: Gadgets
Interesting article... I was thinking of Mt Hood too... I think with the proper use of gadgets those guys could of lived/saved. Proper use of a GPS and...
Sam 2007-03-12 09:08:08 #45338

Re: Ice on Tanner? - Caching Water
Chris et al, we left earlier that morning, and ended up hiking through the heat of the day. I think I drank 2.5 liters from the river to the top of the...
ecjohnson010 2007-03-12 08:50:10 #45337

Re: Gadgets
Being truly self-reliant and being able to exercise appropriate judgement to call for help are actually entirely different skills in my view. My own...
Doug Nering 2007-03-12 08:12:41 #45336

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