Tom Meyers account of George Mancuso's death at the LCR in 2001
Wyoming Dave posted this up on the Yahoo canyoneering group and I thought it would interest folks here too. Many of you may remember this flash flood and the...
rich_rudow 2009-04-29 14:25:27 #55149

Re: Backpacker Mag on Royal Arch Loop
Max, you made me blink! :) I walked out to my truck to grab the permit I have for my next Canyon hike to review rule 11 again. You're right ... you can't...
rich_rudow 2009-04-29 12:23:59 #55148

Re: Backpacker Mag on Royal Arch Loop
Bob, you make an excellent point and I lost some the context of your point in my reply. If you're 'depending' on the rope to ascend the cliff you'd...
rich_rudow 2009-04-29 11:12:49 #55147

Re: Backpacker Mag on Royal Arch Loop
Hey Bob, as an aside for the benefit of the group at large since I know you're aware of this already, but your point below got me thinking about about the...
rich_rudow 2009-04-29 10:53:16 #55146

Re: Backpacker Mag on Royal Arch Loop
Rich, I'm glad to hear your fairly quick decision to drop the idea of bolts at the RA Loop rappel. As you point out, it's a highly emotional issue with lots...
bobhostetler 2009-04-29 09:07:53 #55145

Re: Backpacker Mag on Royal Arch Loop
Rich, It sounds like we agree on the key issues. I'd like to emphasize that besides your point below about "Given the high traffic and limited rap...
bobhostetler 2009-04-29 08:37:21 #55144

Re: Backpacker Mag on Royal Arch Loop
Rich, Have you ever read the rules on a backcountry permit? Number 11 prohibits defacing rocks. That includes placing bolt anchors. Max --- In...
canyonmax 2009-04-29 08:26:41 #55143

Re: Training for the canyon
I have found that at my age (67) it takes me about 3 months of gradual training to do the r2r without any cramps at night, no pains in the morning, and sleep...
sskalskii@comcast.net 2009-04-29 08:18:43 #55142

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