Re: Updated list of Redwall routes
Ah, British Adjectival Grades... http://www.rumc.co.uk/page.php?7 British Adjectival System Also known as trad grades, these are used to grade the...
TomJones 2012-01-05 07:24:59 #67794

Re: Updated list of Redwall routes
If this is on the decimal system, would Papago be a 4.0? -- I'm not part of the climber culture so I'm just asking for clarification. I've read that 4.0 is...
Doug Nering 2012-01-05 00:17:59 #67793

Re: Updated list of Redwall routes
Perhaps for the climbing aspect, we could simplify to Easy, Moderate, Hard, Very Hard (E,M,H,V ;-) with Easy (usually around 5.0-5.5) Moderate (usually around...
brian_alleyne 2012-01-04 13:41:59 #67792

Re: Updated list of Redwall routes
And hence the value of having the three different ratings, as opposed to trying to give a single number: 0) Papago wall along Escalante route (1,5.0,I) 7)...
brian_alleyne 2012-01-04 13:35:31 #67791

Re: Updated list of Redwall routes
This is all totally subjective, but Brian seems to be on the right path. It would be helpful if the climbing scale was broken down or in some way referenced...
JoshC 2012-01-04 13:31:15 #67790

Re: Updated list of Redwall routes
That was my first reaction too, but keep in mind that exposure and climbing difficulty are two separate things. For example, the upclimb in Matkat is...
Bob Bordasch 2012-01-04 13:13:56 #67789

Re: Updated list of Redwall routes
Demonstrating that disagreement is likely to ensue, I can't quite see falling on the Papago wall thing (granted, it'd be hard to do for a climber of...
John 2012-01-04 12:21:16 #67788

Re: Bears, North Rim in winter
Thanks, Randy. I would imagine that it would be quite surprising to see a bear in the canyon. That's why I was asking about the forests up on the rims. I...
Bill Cathey 2012-01-04 11:45:57 #67787

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