Re: Proposed Grand Canyon Route rating system...
All of these routes including mile 21.5 written up in Harvey's Treks book that bob rates (M, e3, B, II, X) should be an R. This is because it is already...
brian_alleyne 2012-01-14 22:42:31 #67927
Re: Proposed Grand Canyon Route rating system...
Dave, I was looking at the wrong version of the list and missed all of the updates in the Surprise area. After reading Coltrin's post #3500 I'm certain that...
rich_rudow 2012-01-14 21:48:09 #67926
Re: Proposed Grand Canyon Route rating system...
Thanks, Rich. I had your E-side route listed as 248.4e, which from your map looks like it may be the same as 248.4f - maybe Mike Coltrin, who wrote the...
Davidian Marcus 2012-01-14 21:04:13 #67925
Re: Proposed Grand Canyon Route rating system...
Dave, I've done both the east and west Redwall routes out of Surprise Canyon. In fact, east route is in Grand Canyoneering. We call that slot "Twin Key...
rich_rudow 2012-01-14 20:19:05 #67924
Re: Proposed Grand Canyon Route rating system...
Rich -
I couldn't tell from your description where you meant. Where is the bottom of this route as compared to route 248.4f, as described in post #3500...
Davidian Marcus 2012-01-14 18:28:01 #67923
Re: Proposed Grand Canyon Rating System
I guess 5.6 / 5.7 varies a lot, because I can usually climb 5.6 / 5.7 but had no chance on this upclimb, even with a tight rope pointing upward - good thing...
TomJones 2012-01-14 14:56:18 #67922
Re: Proposed Grand Canyon Rating System
Corrected version of my previous post ...
Since it's time to talk specifics, perhaps ...
> 0) Papago wall along Escalante route (3+,e1+,A,I,G)
> 1) going...
John 2012-01-14 12:44:08 #67921
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