Re: Grandview Trail Falling Death
I am a certified PADI Rescue Diver and I was taught to not give up on CPR unless you are also in serious danger or until a person with more skill (e.g....
gfowler_46 2012-07-22 13:17:43 #70272

Re: Grandview Trail Falling Death
At my most recent WFR re-cert a few related things came up, and the protocol is rapidly evolving: 1. CPR doesn't generally 'work', so don't get all wigged...
TomJones 2012-07-22 12:10:33 #70271

Re: Grandview Trail Falling Death
One can always ask the EMS supervisor or the Csnyon Rangers as to their protocal fo' CPR and response to unresponsive hikers..... instead of speculation. Not...
jagchiker 2012-07-21 21:26:09 #70270

Re: Grandview Trail Falling Death
Doc, I don't argue with your contention, just the second-guessing what protocols the S&R guys had to operate under. I just defend them and put out what I...
Old Hakatai Hobo 2012-07-21 21:22:57 #70269

Re: Grandview Trail Falling Death
I agree with Drifter ( and I am a real doctor )... CPR on a trauma victim whom is obviously dead ? How about a little dignity for the dead? doc  The...
docthomas04@yahoo.com 2012-07-21 19:08:03 #70268

Re: Down Hermit to the Tonto, across to Indian Garden
Hi Thomas, In addition to all of the great advice already given, let me share my experience from attempting this same loop last November. I got up in the...
originalgiri 2012-07-21 19:07:49 #70267

Re: Down Hermit to the Tonto, across to Indian Garden
I agree with John. 6 is better, especially if you are going to explore around Horn. You probably won't use it, but ......... Ken in NC
Ken 2012-07-21 17:53:30 #70266

Re: Grandview Trail Falling Death
There is nothing to do after the accident that will change what has happened. But what are the circumstances and details that may shed some light on...
PhilG 2012-07-21 13:41:33 #70265

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