Re: good alternative to Tyvek ?
Yeah, I have a 1-person size piece of regular Tyvek that I've used for years, and it's soft (and quiet) as silk. But it still weighs over 2oz per...
johngeyles 2014-03-12 14:16:19 #75271

Re: FiveTen CampFour versus Savant ?
I have also noticed the same problem with the Camp Fours as Rich. I also find them to be less than comfortable for my wide foot. On my last technical trip...
surfer4887 2014-03-12 13:51:26 #75270

Re: good alternative to Tyvek ?
James, the idea of using Tyvek on the Esplanade for water is sheer genius! On the last trip I had a syringe to get water from shallow potholes. Thanks for...
rich_rudow 2014-03-12 13:38:41 #75269

Re: good alternative to Tyvek ?
I use the construction grade Tyvek for a ground cloth on every GC trip. My current Tyvek sheet has seen more than 300 nights and hasn't made that 'crinkle'...
rich_rudow 2014-03-12 13:35:12 #75268

Re: FiveTen CampFour versus Savant ?
John, much to my disappointment, the Savants have been discontinued. I still have a few boxes in the closet for really wet canyons, but I've been using Camp...
rich_rudow 2014-03-12 13:30:40 #75267

Re: good alternative to Tyvek ?
Looking for ultra-light groundcloths, I came across the "kite making" Tyvek I linked earlier. It may be of interest there, a new style of Tyvek, 14M, ...
johngeyles 2014-03-12 12:59:48 #75266

Re: good alternative to Tyvek ?
I guess I believe the polycryo is strong enough, but the "window shrink film" has me spooked into thinking it'll be "clingy" and hard to manage (think saran...
johngeyles 2014-03-12 12:56:53 #75265

Re: Tarptent tents (or alternatives)
Interesting discussion about groundcloth versus no-groundcloth ...I'm with Mike - no groundcloth. I pay my gear to protect me, not the other way 'round. ...
johngeyles 2014-03-12 12:51:16 #75264

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