Re: fall hikes
Water in Phantom almost to the upper end. There is no water to Shiva Saddle from upper Phantom. The climb out of upper Phantom can be a bit dicey. Water...
donaldpvadair@cs.com 2001-05-26 19:06:28 #9007

Re: fall hikes
--- In grandcanyon@y..., donaldpvadair@c... wrote: > We have done all of the above. Car problems easy with Phantom/Crystle. It > is also a winter...
D3canyon@aol.com 2001-05-26 18:31:30 #9006

Re: fall hikes
--- In grandcanyon@y..., donaldpvadair@c... wrote: > I agree! These are hard hikes. Most can take seven to ten days. Adair Have you needed rope on the...
D3canyon@aol.com 2001-05-26 18:25:51 #9005

Re: fall hikes
--- In grandcanyon@y..., donaldpvadair@c... wrote: > We have done all of the above. Car problems easy with Phantom/Crystle. It > is also a winter...
D3canyon@aol.com 2001-05-26 18:22:21 #9004

Re: Question for the Women
I can vouch for the Esbit stove and tabs in desert settings where you just want to heat something up, boil coffee or warm a dehydrated meal at most....
tom@bournemarimbas.com 2001-05-26 15:52:30 #9003

Re: Question for the Women
Tim, Esbit tabs are solid fuel, very light. You can either use the nearly weightless Esbit stove--and you should in the canyon because technically the tabs by...
firefly 2001-05-26 15:05:03 #9002

Re: Oh, My Achin Breakin Back - Momma's & Poppa?
Bob, I agree with you on all points. I just don't like it when things get ugly. I acknowledge that I play a lot on this list, as I have several personal...
firefly 2001-05-26 14:58:21 #9001

Re: fall hikes
Your problem is a common one, that is to assume there is a trail. Some have been done enough to beat in a tread in obvious areas. Most are just routes...
donaldpvadair@cs.com 2001-05-26 12:42:16 #9000

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